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October 14, 2026 at 12:00 am #330025
(My apologies in advance as I am still unable to reply to others’ replies on my posts)
I found this on eBay and snatched it up as soon as I saw the old bank account would still have fuel for commuting until payday. Significantly less than I expected when I started looking. If I wind up looking for another this will be an excellent study piece.
The only serious issues I find, externally (haven’t disassembled it yet) are: A) a bent or loose throttle lever and B) stripped/missing threads where what I assume is where the fitting for the idle mixture screw/needle goes.
It might be my cranial flatulence, again, but I cannot find an exploded parts diagram and list of parts for these carbs?
If anybody knows where I can find such things for this 99 year old carb I would be most grateful!
1967 Johnson 9.5 "Grandpa"
1962 Sea King 3hp
1957 "Monkey Ward's" Sea King 5hp
1956 Gale Buccaneer 12hp
1955 Evinrude Big Twin Electric
1955 Goodyear Sea Bee 5hp
1953 Evinrude Big Twin
1947 Martin 40
1927 Evinrude Model ROctober 14, 2026 at 4:53 am #330034You’d probably have to prowl forums on Smokstak to find any references to parts diagrams for those old Tillotsons. All I’ve ever found was a reference list that was an application chart showing the various engines that the Tillotson carbs of that era were used on. Your best likely option is good advice and also making notes of what parts are located where as you’re disassembling things.
The threads can be revitalized, but its tricky. I’ve gotten it done by cleaning the threads in both the carb and the mating part, then applying a layer of JB Weld to the female threads while coating the male threads with light oil before inserting the part into the carb. When the epoxy cures, the oil on the threads prevents it from sticking, and if the planets are aligned for you, the male part just unscrews and leaves the cured JB Weld in the threads. An alternative fix is to make a fitting that is about 0.005″ oversized on t he threads and screwing that into the carb, but obviously you need a lathe to do that.
FWIW I don’t like what I see on the throttle lever quadrant, it looks like the zinc allow is flaking, unless that’s just paint. The quadrants are also zinc allow and prone to the corrosion problem that I wrote about in a separate post. To be honest, you’ll be better off with an MS-45 series carb, as they were made in the 30’s and have as good a record of longevity as these ones do have a bad record of crumbling.
Best,
PM T2He's livin' in his own private Idaho..... I hope to go out quietly in my sleep, like my grand-dad did..... and not screaming, like the passengers in his car...
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October 14, 2026 at 8:14 am #330038any good for u ?? see A series
Tillotson asks owners to contact them for older models.
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October 14, 2026 at 9:06 am #330042I would take a very careful look at all parts of the carb before I committed to using it. There are likely other issues besides the one you found. The 1927 versions of Tillotson carbs are notorious for falling apart, including the levers and quadrants. You might consider looking for one from a later Neptune twin.
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October 14, 2026 at 11:22 am #330045
While some early MS-3 & MS-4 series carbs have survived they are very fragile and threads strip out easily. Look for the MS-45 A through H series carbs. The MS-45-A carb was used in the early motors but if you find one its most likely from the later years . Most early ones have failed and been discarded but if you find an A look it over carefully for cracks. Epically the float bowl cover. What you may have trouble finding is this fuel line connection that Fvinrude used. It crumbles like the carb. There are several different ways it was done. There are later Neptune’s that use the “E” connection. I don’t know which model .
A "Boathouse Repair" is one thats done without having tools or the skills to do it properly.
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